Monday, May 29, 2006

First Cash Bribe Attempt

Last year I had a student offer me "anything" , to get a better grade, but the other day I got my first cash bribe attempt. When I told her she'd failed, she was like, "Oh come on! What do you want from me?!"
"I want to you to Learn something."
"Oh, I learned it good enough, what do you really want? Money? How much?"
"I don't want your money or anything else besides you learning something!"
"How much?"
"Shakespeare, Swift..."
"NO! How much money?!"
"Get the hell outta here."

7 comments:

Jim Gust said...

maybe you should wear a wire. also, don't meet with female students alone.

Aras said...

I been thinking about wearing a wire. A colleague in Austria showed me one the size of an ipod in November retailed at 20 Euro.

As for not meeting female students alone, that's tricky, cause often they've done make up work they have to present it to me, but nobody else is presenting at the same time, and I've already been warned by the boss that I may not hold exams in the hallway. I'll think about that though.

Trashcan said...

Do you let your students retake exams if they fail? This doesn't happen very often in the states, but is fairly common, if not universal practice at VU. People can even retake them if they pass but get a crummy grade.

The only teacher/professor who made a common practise of it that i know is Mr. Roberts. Of course he planned out his entire teaching style based on track, and according to highjump rules, you get your highest jump as jump, no matter if you failed to make it on lower ones. He would let you take any test or quiz again, and take the higher of the 2, althuogh i'm not sure he did it for midterms or finals because those were graded on a curve with the whole class so you can't give a second different exam to only some.

Aras said...

my college is small enough that you can't choose any courses, really, except a couple electives, you just choose a program and it's set in stone for three or four years. therefore, you can't redo things you failed next year. i've heard you can do one (if it's offered again), but that would be on top of everything else. students have the right to take the exams as many times as they like until they get a passing grade, with one month after the end of exams as a deadline. i don't let them do it more than once a week though. if they're still failing more than one subject after that they're expelled. that almost never happens though, because many people here (and probably everywhere) value the success (survival) of their venture over their own integrity, and we can't succeed if we expell everyone who deserves to be exelled, since that would be a huge amount of students, at least half of the corrospondence students, who pay double.

my students do have this problem and often have to be evaluated by an ad hoc commission to get graded, because i refuse to pass them. the success of my venture isn't my own survival, or even that of the college, but the betterment of lithuanian teachers, which is only achieved, in part, by not giving diplomas to dipshits who bought or plagiarized or slept their way through four years of college (universities). luckily that doesn't compromise my integrity, so i don't even have to choose which i value more.

mrdarius said...

first of all, i love how you capitalized "Learn." second of all, i'm glad there are no teachers like you in america because then we woudl have no economy over here. honestly. i would say about 85% of students graduate at what should be considered a failing rate.

while i know that you are a very realistic person who grades students on a fair and appropriate scale, don't you think that dogmatic principles such as No Cheating or No Plagiarism should be relaxed once in a while for students who are truly beyond that? this would not only include students who are truly intelligent, but also students who are truly conniving?

it reminds me of a class at BU: "Business Intelligence," where the professor would encourage cheating and plagiarism "as long as i don't catch you." ?

now, of course, if you can't catch your students cheating you can't help but pass them, but this guy encouraged this behavior.

anyways, i just had 3 magnums with mama, and a bunch of discussions on religion (for which i've been excommunicated).


so take it easy on these random ide-ay.

mrdarius said...

by the way, if you really want to see it, i'll dig up a picture of the first cash bribe i ever saw.

Aras said...

no dariau, plagiarism is very detrimental to institutions in lithuania. it's so prevelent, you wouldn't believe it. you used to write up reports on you rehab patients success rates, right? or something like that. based on those your boss and coworkers do certain things. i've known people here to plagiarize such things, for instance, from another rehab clinic, which has completely different statistics. the result is basically a catastrophe when a year later everybody finds out they've been working in the wrong direction, because they don't have the problems the plagiarized institution had.

sure, dig up the picture.

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