Friday, October 10, 2008

Article of the Day

What Is a Right and How Do We Know? by Bill Whittle is a good one. I thought the last word was gonna be parasite, but it's even better his way. I wish more people would talk about topic.

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

So what happens to unlazy people who can't afford healthcare?

Aras said...

That's a negligible problem in a truly free market: I have the highest confidence in unlazy people. The very real problem everybody runs into in systems of coerced health care is lines out the door: people pulling their own teeth out with pliers because the line at the dentist is a six month wait.

Anonymous said...

I'm not lazy and I just have to wait an inordinate amount of time for dental care and I had surgery on my teeth last week and without going into details I lost way more teeth than I needed to because I had to wait so long. Otherwise how much direct experience do you really have about what it's like for low income earners who can't afford proper health care? Other than theoretical/newspaper etc? I know some pretty nasty stories about things people have had to forego because they could not afford health care, crikey I know more than a handful of people who work approximately 40 hours a week and bring home under $500. "Low skilled" workers are dispensable and living on wages that barely give them enough to pay for immediate bills let alone something like long-term health insurance. I'm not talking about a free for all system that something should be worked out on a needs based system of health insurance to people who can't afford it because I have in fact seen people go without, and now for example I only have half a mouth of teeth pretty much because I had to wait so bloody long.

Anyway, how do you know that's a negligible problem in a truly free market? You don't. No one does. Just because it might sound logical in a philosophical treatise does not mean it translates to real life. Nevertheless, I was talking about the here and now... in America at the moment what happens to unlazy people who can't afford health care?

Aras said...

I'm sorry to hear about your teeth. After your story I wasn't surprised to find this on Wikipedia: "Medicare is Australia's publicly-funded universal health care system, operated by the government..."

Just because it might sound logical in a philosophical treatise does not mean it translates to real life.

I've never understood statements like that. If it's logical then it does work in real life (logic is correct or reliable inference.-Dictionary)

As far as practical examples go, there is the one I mentioned in my last comment about England's universal health care: people pull their own teeth out. Now we have your direct experience example of Australian universal health care.

Now for America. It varies state to state, probably, but I know how it goes in Connecticut, one of the more expensive states. My good friend works landscaping, manual labor, and does not get any deal for medical insurance through work. No discounts. Medical insurance for him costs $250 a month. He spends more than that on beer. I believe it's that cheap because of private enterprise and competition. Under universal health care it would cost more and his income would be taxed for it. His income would also be taxed for the health care of non-tax payers.

Now the really nice thing about America is that, not only does he not have to pay for it through taxes, he doesn't even have to pay for it at all. In fact, he doesn't. He has the freedom to choose not to be insured. He believes that he can take care of himself, and that any emergency medical treatment he needs will cost less than insurance. He's not a careful guy, but he's a trooper.

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